Kanda would you ban all fictional writing? I would say there’s a difference between fact-fiction and truth-lies

on the topic I’m really not sure what to think, however I do know there is some unsavoury stuff in wow that really doesn’t need to be there, for example at level 10 you must summon a warlock using a satanic symbol. Now I’m not saying it will turn you evil and make you grow horns but it sure doesn’t need to be there and made me cringe

I think a point which is interesting continues from what Travis said. Perhaps demons could use the game to get a hold on people in a similar way they can use a lot of other things. Although it may be unreasonable to say that each box comes with its own pre-packaged demon, I would probably say that WoW has made some people become interested in magic.

ps:I don’t actually play the game

I know I personally enjoyed the Lord of the Rings series and can understand the dilemma of carefully discerning what one will allow or disallow in his life for the glory of God. Some things are indeed individual and private choices (Rom 14:22), but always in the light of pleasing our neighbor for his good spiritually (Rom 15:2).

There are two comments which seem contradictory upon which I would like you to expound:

You said, “My pastor inquired of a few Wiccans to get their take on WoW. Does it portray the occult accurately, or is a way for them to recruit/ proselytize? They laughed at him, and told him the game was fantasy, not reality! It has no inherent connection to the magics they do (asah) in real life.”

Then in answer to someone who said that demons stated they “had the right to stay because she was reading the [seemingly demonic] book,” you said, “These are lying spirits, not worthy of our trust.”

Can we really trust self-proclaimed Wiccans to give us truth?

I believe God, not a Warlock like yourself, who does Satan’s bidding for him by creating this website to lie to people and lead them straight into Hell! Ever since my Son got involved with his Wiccan Wife and Wiccan Mother-In-Law who taught him to dabble in the occult–including Harry Potter and Satanic gothic novels–I can no longer recognize my Son anymore!!

Satan and his demons are spirits. Jesus warned us that Satan goes to and fro, searching for whom he may devour: they are always looking for warm human bodies to inhabit so that they can carry out their evil deeds! When someone chooses to turn their back on their Creator God, they invite Satan to inhabit them. Unless those demons have been cast out of them or they turn back to God, they loose their souls forever, by their own choice. God created Hell only for Satan and his minions, like you. He sends no one to Hell: they send themselves to Hell when they choose to serve Satan, not God!

Tell your buddy, Lucifer, he and his minions (that includes you), will lose the battle! You see, I have already read the last book of the Bible and know Jesus wins!

While I was playing this game my wife and I had an experience one night where one of us would wake up screaming thinking something was in the room with us. We both experienced an intense sense of fear, like nothing I’ve ever felt before. We couldn’t go back to sleep for hours after that. This kind of thing had never happened to either of us before and I wondered if it could be a demon. This happened on several occasions until I started wondering if there really was a spiritual connection to WoW. So I decided to get rid of the game and stop playing it and see what would happen. After that, we never had any problems like this.

I think this is at the core of our differences. I believe the Holy Spirit has already recorded what is important and vital to know when dealing with evil spirits. I went into a bit of this in my first two posts. I’m curious about your take on those posts?

http://kbonikowsky.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/what-i-believe-about-demonic-activity-part-1/

http://kbonikowsky.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/my-beliefs-about-demonic-activity-part-2/

His written word is sufficient for life and godliness. The recorded word is how Jesus dealt with Satan. The written word of God is the sword Paul refers to when discussing how to fight the spirits in Eph 6. This is my example and what I believe is ultimately truth.

Putting the Good Book to good use!

“…my premise was not to base any statement on experience, whether personal or other, but on Biblical study…” I understand that. Unfortunately, in the deliverance ministry, there is no manual on what you will see and what happens, only guidance from the Holy Ghost at the very moment you are ministering to the person.

“Can we even trust the demon when he says, “… that they had the right to stay because she was reading the book.”? These are lying spirits, not worthy of our trust.” By the Name and Power of the Lord Jesus, I force the demons to tell me how they entered the person and what makes them THINK they’re allowed to be in there. The very second they answer, the Holy Ghost makes an impression within my spirit telling me whether they are lying or telling the truth.

“The more I read and hear about people’s various experiences, the more mixed up I get about truth.” JUST how the devil likes it. He would absolutely HATE it if you became a “Demoncasterouter” too. that’s why he loves it when God’s children are confused.

“I trust His understanding and knowledge even when my experience is defiant.” Great, experience during deliverance sessions is never defiant.

Hi, FatMenace (I don’t really like calling you that…You’re not a menace, and if you are fat, who cares? ;>)~

“…seeing a demon on every corner. People get obsessed with this stuff and then it becomes their focus instead of Christ.” I’m here to tell you…….there IS a demon on every corner, you’d better believe it! When you focus on deliverance and demonic spirits, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to lose your focus on Christ. In fact, the more you focus on the deliverance ministry, the MORE you focus on Christ then when you try to focus on Christ! He’s the one that catsts the spirits out of the person. Therefore, when you are doing a deliverance session, you end up focusing more on Christ then when you were simply trying to focus only on Christ.

Y’all have a great week!!!!!!!!!